To Evolve Beyond Human Consciousness

Written by Mathew Naismith

Like any other species, human consciousness itself can only comprehend to a certain point, any comprehension beyond this point isn't of human origin. As of any  consciousness of any species, human consciousness has it's limitations, it's certainly not infinite within it's comprehension. It's these limitations that keep human consciousness locked up in certain scenarios (box's) thus creating a never ending recurring existence of war and desolation, in actuality, human consciousness is infinite within it's behaviour. It's a behaviour that just keeps on reoccurring, it's never ending, even after a consciousness has physically obliterated itself, it's still able to once again physically recreate the same scenario over and over again. In my mind, human consciousness is having a real hard time evolving into another species that is able to comprehend beyond what human consciousness is able to.

I should point out that human consciousness isn't physical, it's very much of a non-physical entity, in other words it doesn't die when the physical self dies.  

Evolving Consciousness: Did the human collective consciousness truly comprehend what people like Jesus and Buddha tried to portray? Obviously not, if it did, we wouldn't be where we are today, playing out the same old scenarios over and over again.

Humans evolved from micro-organisms, it is quite comprehensible, to me, that humans are not the end of the chain of evolution, evolution doesn't stop at being human, it will go on but only if we are willing to evolve. Of course it's possible that not all human will evolve, there  still micro-organisms and apes around, not all of a species will evolve, however, it's unlikely that humans, while cohabiting with a more consciously aware being, won't evolve. Basically, human consciousness will die out either by it's own hands or evolve while cohabiting with more aware conscious entities. However, any human consciousness that doesn't naturally evolve or cohabitate with more aware entities, will consciously stay human. This is neither right nor wrong, it just is, is it wrong for a micro-organism to stay as a micro-organism?

Malignant Consciousness: Human consciousness has experienced various influences from other forms of consciousness's, Jesus and Buddha are but a few of these more aware consciousness's, however, human consciousness has also been influenced by what I call malignant consciousness's as well. It's a cancer causing consciousness in a sense it influences a consciousness to become highly destructive, even to itself. Cancer isn't just a physical entity, it's also non-physical, in actuality, everything that is of the physical, has been created from the non-physical. You could look at people like Jesus and Buddha as being  doctors/healers of malignant cancers, of consciousness's that are highly destructive, it's just we didn't take our medicine to avoid getting really ill, we just didn't listen and now human consciousness is riddled with malignant cancers.

Human consciousness is unable to, quite understandably, comprehend that everything that is physical, was created from non-physical consciousness. Human consciousness is so conditioned to physicality, even after the physical self dies, it still hangs onto it's physical self, ghosts are a good example of this. This makes the human physical self accessible to malignant non-physical consciousness's, being that anything primarily of the five senses, is a prime candidate for these malignant consciousness's to influence. The only thing that is able to stop this influence is the realisation that we are not just of these five senses. In actuality, if we could perceive our own existence void of the five senses, no amount of  malignant consciousness would be able to influence us, it's this simple. To evolve, we need to realise we are not just these five senses.  

Note: If you are not into souls, the following isn't going to be for you.

Souls: Some souls, at the soul level, are of physicality, the five senses, some aren't. The five sense are by far not just of physicality as of physicality isn't just of the physical, in actuality, human consciousness isn't very physical at all in the whole scheme of things. There are consciousness's that are far more of the five senses than we are but to us they seem to be non-physical. This kind of existence is too difficult to comprehend or put into words.

We have a huge mix of souls, within this reality, that are primarily of the five senses and souls that are primarily of the comprehension and conditioning beyond these five senses. Just like we have our own paths to follow in this life, we also have our own path to follow at the soul level, this means souls that are primarily of the five senses, are more likely to be influenced by malignant consciousness's. A consciousness that is influenced by malignant consciousness's, is naturally controlling, this being that the five senses are all about control. Any consciousness void of the control of the five senses, is unable to be controlling in any sense. It's the five senses that give consciousness the ability to control or the illusion  of control!!

Why are so many people who are aware, are disheartened and uneasy about what is occurring in the world and other people are not? I find it quite interesting that we have a huge variety of souls within this one reality, it's not a real coexistence however, there is no real cohabiting between these quite different souls, this is primarily due to outside influence from other conscious entities. The more of the five sense we are of, the more susceptible we will be to malignant consciousness's, it's quite inevitable. It was inevitable that this kind of reality was going to be controlled by malignant consciousness's if we didn't listen to far more aware consciousness's, the game isn't over though for any consciousness not fooled into being just of the five senses.

Basically, the five senses are of the finite where's a comprehension beyond these five sense is of the infinite. Anything of the awareness of the infinite self, will prevail, anything not, will stay as a malignant consciousness's, a consciousness that is forever fixed to a never ending cycle of doom and gloom over and over again. Not all of us are meant to evolve from being of human consciousness, this is their path as we have ours.

In all, have faith within your infinite self......        

Does Consciousness Exist Outside the Brain?

written by Mathew Naismith

The following discussion is long and tedious and at times bitter but what the outcome of this discussion produces, is amazing to say the least. The discussion is based on my last post, "Putting Consciousness Into Perspective", but is primarily to do with consciousness being able to exist outside of the human brain. Also, some of the links I supplied might be of interest to some people.

Please bare with me, I have to prompt some people in opposition to my ideas at times to get the truth out in the open, I'm not interested in untruths. Prompting means to incite a discussion that tells of the opposing parties true intentions. I'm very good at this and it does take me to be tough on a person at times, basically, tough love. I wouldn't call this a pleasant discussion by far but at times we need to put up with the unpleasantries to get to what is pleasant for us, the world the way it is, is a good indication of this.            

       

Reply

Consciousness is not "the mental action or process of acquiring knowledge", though knowledge may be acquired while conscious.

There is no "physical consciousness". Consciousness is a pattern within, or functioning of, a physical brain.

Consciousness is not "the act of acquiring awareness". That is the act of becoming conscious itself.

"The mental aspect is the same in the physical as it is of the non-physical, the only difference is, the physical existence needs a brain to process these mental actions and processes, the non-physical doesn't need a brain, it works with the mind"
No, consciousness is the functioning of a physical brain. There is no "non-physical" consciousness that does not need a brain.

A brain is still a brain without a mind. It just isn't functioning. But a mind is not a mind without a brain.

Consciousness is not a "non-physical entity". It is not an entity at all. it is a state of a mind.

Let's put this simply, without any "woo"...
The mind is the functioning of a brain.
Consciousness is an emergent property of a complex brain.
Easy-peasy. Nothing mysterious about it.

My Reply

There are a number of dictionary interpretations that say otherwise Bruce, but all these kinds of interpretation denote is a physical perspective over and above a non-physical perspective. 

"A brain is still a brain without a mind. It just isn't functioning. But a mind is not a mind without a brain."

So how do ghosts/spirits interact in a physical existence when they don't themselves have a physical brain? The only way you could answer this is state that ghosts don't exist when they obviously do. Science studies have proven that the mind exists outside the body. 

You put the physical before the non-physical therefore you will never be able to comprehend what I am talking about, you have proven the points I made in the post Bruce. 

Your in a box and this box is labeled physical, that is all you can perceive because you are in this box, easy-peasy, nothing complicated about this. 

People like myself are out of that box you labeled physical, therefore, we our perspectives and perception are much broader than the box labeled physical.

Bruce, in a million years you will never WANT to see this will you? If you are happy existing in your box, that's good as I am happy existing outside your box labeled physical.

What, stating facts instead of fiction Bruce. It is well known in psychology that we do indeed put ourselves within a box and this is where we perceive from, of course the box gives us a bias perspective as you have quite clearly displayed here Bruce. There is a much bigger world outside the box Bruce.......

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You stated fiction, not facts. Fantasy, not reality.
I stated facts. I described both mind and consciousness in simple terms. Both of my descriptions are empirically supported. Yours are not.

It is well known in psychology that we do indeed put ourselves within a box and this is where we perceive from
So what?

of course the box gives us a bias perspective as you have quite clearly displayed here Bruce
You've yet to demonstrate that. All you've demonstrated is that you can't defend your ideas.

There is a much bigger world outside the box Bruce.
I'm glad you've noticed. Why don't you come out and play with all the rational intelligent people?

My Reply

The dictionary interpretations I read contradict your own for starters. So according to you, dictionaries are fictional......!!! 

Through a number of science experiments conducted, they have concluded that the mind does indeed exist outside of the body but there is no way you will comprehend this Bruce, this is inevitable as no doubt you will prove. Can you now see the box you are trying to perceive the rest of existence through? 

Anyone for starters who clearly states that dictionary's are fictional, are certainly existing in a box Bruce.

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Please provide a link to the "dictionary definitions" you used.
I just think your dictionaries are fictional.

Through a number of science experiments conducted, they have concluded that the mind does indeed exist outside of the body
No, they have not. Now you are just flat-out lying.

Are you ever going to get around to defending your ideas? I'm getting tired of waiting. One might almost conclude that you cannot....

...and I see you've spammed this to a dozen different communities. What a dick move.

My Reply

Word web, consciousness: An alert cognitive state in which you are aware of yourself and your situation

Being that consciousness is obviously cognitive, cognitive interpretation is as follow, " The mental action or process of acquiring knowledge and understanding through thought, experience, and the senses." 

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/cognition

Now I know for a fact you will screw this around but consciousness is being cognitive, this is a fact Bruce. 

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/consciousness

"The state of being aware of and responsive to one’s surroundings: " 

I think a cognition relates to being aware would you not? You made the mistake in not thinking in terms of cognitive did you not Bruce? Big mistake.......Consciousness, an alert cognitive state, so what you are saying is consciousness isn't a cognitive state, obviously? 

Now for my evidence of the mind being able to exist outside of the physical brain.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiPkKX_ha7NAhUGJKYKHSF7B-8QFggeMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ukapologetics.net%2F07%2Fmindandbody.htm&usg=AFQjCNF_gczwScwjo4FjTlX0No-2eLj5Fw&sig2=x5kSYKZVlQ9K1uSAjq2Cag

http://www.learning-mind.com/quantum-theory-proves-that-consciousness-moves-to-another-universe-after-death/

http://themindunleashed.org/2014/03/brain-create-consciousness.html

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/biocentrism/201112/does-the-soul-exist-evidence-says-yes

http://www.oddee.com/item_98822.aspx

http://humansarefree.com/2015/07/scientific-proof-of-reincarnation-yes.html

So if I'm lying and unintelligent, unlike yourself of course, all these far more intelligent people than you are also lying according to your obvious bias perception? You have once again proven that you do indeed exist in a box labelled physical. 

In a million years my friend, you will not concede you are wrong in any sense, this will be obvious in your replies. Get out of your box Bruce, it's making you look awfully stupid my friend.

By the way, I can, in time, produce future links to state how much of a liar I'm not and how ignorant you are if you like.

Further proof that souls exist which means so does the mind outside of the body. 

http://consciouslifenews.com/scientist-photographs-soul-leaving-body/1165924/

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/quantum-scientists-offer-proof-soul-exists/story-fneszs56-1226507452687

Extract: A PAIR of world-renowned quantum scientists say they can prove the existence of the soul.

http://www.strangenotions.com/seven-proofs-for-the-natural-immortality-of-the-human-soul/

http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-proof.htm

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/10/29/science-now-proves-reincarnation-a-look-at-the-souls-journey-after-death/

Of course all these people are far more unintelligent than Bruce, he will obviously tell us so. I think these people are no doubt far better educated than Bruce but Bruce is still more intelligent according to Bruce. That bias perception giving a bias perspective again caused by existing in a box, will these people ever wake up from out of the illusion? We better hope they do one day.... 


I will in time produce more info and links to many more people who are liars and far less intelligent than Bruce even though Bruce isn't even a scientist, it would seem, or quantum physicist. The box can certainly delude us.

Reply

"Word web, consciousness: An alert cognitive state in which you are aware of yourself and your situation"
...which is not how you defined it in your post. As I pointed out in my first reply.

"Now I know for a fact you will screw this around but consciousness is being cognitive"
Nope.
Consciousness is cognitive.
Learning is cognitive.
That does not mean that Consciousness is learning. That's a logical fallacy.

Consciousness is the state of being aware.
Cognition is the state of learning.
Learn the definitions of the words you use.

"Now for my evidence of the mind being able to exist outside of the physical brain."
Peer-reviewed research, please. And present your argument. I don't debate with links. Demonstrate you understand what they are saying.

"So if I'm lying and unintelligent, unlike yourself of course"
I'm more honest than you, and far smarter.

I await your peer-reviewed research demonstrating mind/body dualism...

My Reply

It would seem we are going to continue is this charade.

Try to be conscious without being cognitive, you're actually saying a consciousness can. Consciousness is being cognitive. It is also obvious you didn't know this because you should have mentioned it earlier but you didn't. 

What I explained what consciousness is, is correct because I didn't say the definition of consciousness did I, I only stated consciousness did I not? Your not very observant Bruce, that bloody box again!! 

By the way, there is a big difference between definition and interpretation but of course you don't know this either it would seem. Get out of that box Bruce...

So being aware through being conscious isn't learning through being aware!! 

"I'm more honest than you, and far smarter'.

So calling people names is a sign of intelligence Bruce, I don't think so especially when that name calling isn't backed up with evidence as I have produced. 

"I await your peer-reviewed research demonstrating mind/body dualism..."

So on all the info I supplied from far more intelligent people than you or I, even if you don't think so, this is your reply, your kidding me aren't you.......!! 

Because you are far smarter than I, you demonstrate that you know what they are stating. I think my post certainly demonstrates that I know what they are stating but you won't ever have this will you?

Bruce, give us sound evidence that I lied, good luck on this because I have already proven otherwise haven't I? But not to anyone in a box.... 

Bruce, it's not a good idea confronting people like myself like you have here, all you have proven is how bias and unobservant you are as of anyone stuck in a box would be. 

You absolutely have no idea what I am talking about Bruce which again proves my point about the box. You have proven how unobservant you are as you have proven how observant I am and that my friend is a fact. You of course won't see this either sadly enough

Interpretation: A mental representation of the meaning or significance of something 

Definition: A concise explanation of the meaning of a word, phrase or symbol 

There is a huge difference in their meaning. I stand by my explanation, cognitive represents consciousness as consciousness is represented by a cognitive factor. 

Once again, give us evidence I lied Bruce, at least give us this.....

Reply from another member

Play nice everyone ;)
I personally find your different perspectives very interesting and thank you both for engaging.

My Reply

 Everyone's perspectives are interesting but I don't think Bruce thinks this, I suppose that's why he stooped to name calling. 

What's interesting is that one of us is calling the other person names when replying to them, while the other person has always used the persons actual name when in reply. 

I think my physical pain is getting to me, too much typing in a short time space which makes the discussion even more interesting.

I might have to apologise to Bruce, I have been a little rough on him but it has been interesting, it confirms my perceptions and perspectives in a number of different ways unbeknownst to Bruce.

It's very interesting what that box has created, this is the illusion being that all we are is this box.

Reply from another member

I'm really just learning about all this, but I'm always ready to hear arguments on any side. 

I will reiterate to you both, though, to please be civil where you attack the contention, not the person.

My Reply

You and me both otherwise I wouldn't bother acknowledging Bruce. 

I should ease up on Bruce, I've prompted him way too many times but it's been interesting all the same.

My follow up reply

The following is an interesting read on why attributing consciousness to the physical brain is absurd. 

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/09/21/one-page-proof-that-attributing-consciousness-to-the-brain-is-absurd/

Extract: Consider this an open letter to philosophers, brain researchers, physicists, technocrats, Ray Kurzweil, and TED executives who censored lectures on consciousness by Graham Hancock and Rupert Sheldrake.

Conventional science readily admits (insists) that the brain is made of the same particles that constitute everything else in the universe: rocks, chairs, comets, meteors, galaxies. According to conventional physicists, these particles are not conscious. Therefore, there is no reason to conclude the brain is conscious. The brain has no more ability to spawn consciousness than a rock does. End of story. End of proof. You’re welcome. Of course, a few scientists will argue (and many more will privately believe) that, since we humans ARE conscious, this proves the brain is producing consciousness—because, where else could we look for an explanation? Which is called circular reasoning. Meaning: you already assume what you’re trying to prove. Any first-semester logic student would mark that argument INVALID. Some scientists, suddenly invoking a brand of mysticism they otherwise deplore, claim the unique complex configuration of particles called the brain somehow—in this one case—has a capacity to break every rule in the book and deliver consciousness. But no proof, just faith. Supposition.

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To me, to take a solid unwithering stand that consciousness can't possibility ever exist outside the brain, is an indication of utter blind faith, a consciousness entrapped in a box of dogmatic beliefs and concepts based purely on bias. Consider this, how would a consciousness entrapped in a box behave otherwise but bias and bias to the extreme. This sounds awfully like I'm talking about an extremist religious ideology but I'm not, I'm speaking of the bias and extremism of science........

I however don't exactly agree in the statement that certain physicists state that consciousness is in rocks, trees and so forth, I once read that these physicists state that everything has a form or kind of consciousness, meaning, not everything has a consciousness like humans for example but I could be incorrect in this. Basically, this article supports my scientifically supported suppositions and conjectures in regards to my post.

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The discussion is continuing which in my mind isn't worth mentioning, the following is my last sensible reply in regards to this discussion.

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This is interesting, our discussion has been primarily on the physical aspects of consciousness, basically, a consciousness that is cognitive, cognition being "The psychological result of perception and learning and reasoning" (Word Web).

In my post, I had a different interpretation of non-physical consciousness than of cognition for a very good reason, that reason being that not all non-physical consciousness is cognitive for the pure fact such consciousness isn't psychologically represented. I'm not about to go into this to why this is so on here.

What I am stating also is that awareness, which obviously takes a consciousness of some kind, is of learning, even when the physical conscious mind is unaware, the physical, and most likely non-physical, unconsciousness is aware. So while we are asleep, unconscious, we are not suppose to be aware and learning? This seems to be what is being stated by certain people here, even when we are physically unconscious, we are still learning because we are still aware be it in a different format. Has anyone heard of sleep learning to begin with?

Another point to make here is the way we analyse, if I was to totally pull apart a human body and totally segregate each part from the other, would we still call these segregated parts a human as opposed of being of a human. It's no longer a human especially when we segregate it, it's of parts of a human.

What some people are doing here in this discussion is the same, segregate everything and only mention what they want to acknowledge and still call it a holistic analysis. Not once has anyone of the opposing view to mine analysed the info I have given holistically. Certain people within science and spiritualty do the same if they want or desire a certain outcome other than what the holistic approach will produce/create. This is well known in the circles of psychology and quantum physics to occur. 

I could pull apart any fact and turn it into fiction, this is fact, the question is, would I be deceptive in doing so? Obviously......How often is factual life turned into fiction and of course visa-versa? This is one reason people like me can see through blatant deception  which is usually created by a consciousness being bias while stuck in a box.

My box analogy is certainly being proven here.

https://endgametime.wordpress.com/the-awakening-quantum-mechanics-of-the-human-brain-and-consciousness/

 Extract:Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart. 

http://keelynet.com/biology/reality.htm

Where is the physical brain when two subatomic particles can communicate with each other over a long distance? Communication takes consciousness because one consciousness has to be aware of another consciousness to be able to communicate, in other words, self-awareness. This of course won't make any difference to a bias consciousness, this is going to be evident.  

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Human consciousness has always evolved, just because we think we have found the right box, were not allowing human consciousness to evolve any further!! As human history quite plainly shows, there is no right box, only evolution......we are meant to evolve even if that means evolving into an entirely different species or entities.

I again apologise for the length and disposition displayed in this post.......      

The Spirit of the Soul

Written by Mathew Naismith

Spirit, soul: I’m in a conversation at the moment  discussing the soul, in many people eyes, the soul cannot accrue fixations brought about by mortal existences even though the soul is about mortal and immortal existences. This means a soul that is aware of it’s mortal existence is also aware of it’s immortal existence, this is until a soul becomes fixated to mortal existences.  I should point out that mortal existence relates to physical existences.

Mortal existence = physicality + fixations + soul

Immortal = non-physicality + no fixations  + spirit

Soul = ego + fixations + individual aspect of self

Spirit = egoless + no fixations + collective aspect of self

The spirit is also defined as God’s consciousness, divine consciousness, the source and divine light etc. The spirit is quite different to the soul, the soul can be influenced by mortal existence but the spirit can’t be because it’s not of mortal existence, therefore, the spirit is not influenced by mortal fixations unlike the soul. The following response I gave in this conversation will hopefully explain this more. 

The ego cannot exist without the soul but the soul can exist without the ego, the soul has therefore created the ego. A soul without an ego is not tricked in expressing the ego, however, a soul that is fixated to mortal existence, can be tricked in expressing the ego at the soul level.

OK, what is a non-physical entity with evil intent? It’s a soul with evil intent that is expressing ego traits, it’s not an ego trait expressing a soul. 

Through fixations to mortal existence, the soul can indeed be tricked in just expressing these egoistic expressions. How do you think chaotic realities like this one are created? Only through souls that are being tricked can this occur, I’ve actually witnessed this first hand. 

Isn’t it also egotistic to desire the soul to be free of these fixations? The only part of ourselves that is truly free of these fixations is our spirit or what I call the souls core, this is due to the spirit only being of immortal existence. The soul is not just of immortal existence, it’s also of mortal existence and is therefore prone to mortal fixations.  

Does it really matter if we have a different perspective in relation to the soul? It does, if we think the soul can’t accrue fixations and express ego traits, we will never amend our ways at the human level, this means we will keep creating a chaotic existence. There is of course nothing wrong in continuing in creating a chaotic existence, this is unless we are serious about changing our reality to something more constructive. It would seem we are not serious, if we were, we would automatically become aware of our souls fixations to mortal existences, this is unless our souls are totally fixated to mortal existences. This would of course seem to be the case which is fine unless we are truly serious about changing our ways and the reality we are experiencing.

When we pass on, what goes on to maybe live another life?  It’s not our human self that is for sure so it must be our soul. Now the soul can accrue bad karma while experiencing a physical life, is not this bad karma  denoting that the soul itself was influenced by mortal existences?  

Focus: There is a very good reason why so many people are automatically focusing on this God’s conciseness, divine consciousness, the source or divine light,  it’s because this consciousness can’t be influenced by mortal existences. We are inadvertently bypassing our soul and focusing on consciousness itself, a consciousness that is immortal in every sense of the word.  You could say the people, who are focusing on this consciousness, are focused on this consciousness to defuse where these souls are at, I don’t think this would be far from the truth.  We have seemingly automatically focused on this immortal consciousness to counteract what various souls are expressing, you could say we are healing these souls. 

Become aware of the soul but focus on the spirit, I think most spiritual teachings in the past made us aware of this for a very good reason too, I think it’s was done  to defuse what the soul was expressing, an existence primarily  expressive of mortal existences instead of also expressing the immortal self.  Once again, balance is the key, a balance of mortal and immortal expressions.

The following was a follow up reply I posted on this conversation to do with the difference between the soul and the spirit. Spirit guides were also mentioned in this conversation, it’s actually ironical we call our guides spirit guides as I will show. 

There is a difference between a soul and a spirit I believe, the soul can be of mortal and immortal worlds where the spirit is only of the immortal world, it's what we call God’s conciseness, divine consciousness, the source or divine light etc. This consciousness can never be influenced by mortal expressions but the soul can. 

In this case, spirit guides is an interesting description to use , does it refer to souls that are well connected to their spirit? Most probably, we can however be guided by souls that aren’t connected to their spirit as well, so a true spirit guide isn’t controlled by the ego in my mind.    

I should also mention, the soul denotes the individual aspect of oneself and the spirit denotes the collective. The spirit is about oneness where the soul is about individualism/dualism, this is why the spirit can never be influenced by mortal existences and the soul can.

Soul = the individual aspect of self

Spirit = the collective aspect of self 

Can We Truly Trust Our Soul??

Written by Mathew Naismith

As I wrote in my last post, the soul can also accrue conditions that need healing very much like the human self, this is due to the soul becoming too fixated to mortal existences.

Recently on a discussion board, I posted the following quote of mine,” A true spiritual path is a quietened path for only in our quietness can we observe!! Some people disagreed with this quote and stated a true spiritual path can only be followed if the soul is guiding us. My query with this is, what if this soul is as fixated to mortal existences as much as the human self through accrued conditions that stop a soul from following their souls chosen path?  The following was the reply I gave on this discussion.                          

   

A quietened path allows one to observe and become aware through such observations instead of just participating. The soul, through lack of observational skills, can become just as unobservant than the human self, this often leads to chaos.

This happens when the soul becomes just  as fixated to mortal existences than the human self, in this case, it’s advisable to follow the path of  your immortal self, in other words the spirit of the soul, there is a difference but only when the soul becomes fixated to mortal existences.

I’ve actually come across souls, that have no physical body or mind, who have such fixations that blind them to their truer existence and path.

Should we follow the guidance of a soul that is just as fixated to mortal existence than the human self?  This actually occurs and I think it’s something we need to be aware of .

Are we following our true path if the guidance of a soul is only fixated to mortal existences?  It would seem not, not in a lot of cases, this is because the soul can be tricked onto a path not of their own souls choosing but of other souls choosing. I’ve experienced this first and  I know it happens. This again is worth being aware of.

If our soul is no longer being the observer and the participator because of  accrued fixations, can we trust our souls to guide us on our chosen path?

It’s apparent to me we can be influenced to follow other souls paths other than our own even at the soul level, once the soul stops being the observer, it’s becomes less aware and vulnerable to other influences. We are the same at the human level, as soon as we loose direction, we make ourselves vulnerable to other influences which can lead us off our own chosen path.  War is a good example of this, how many people who go to war actually want to die for their country? To do this, they have left a previous existence, a previous path somewhat different to dying for one’s country.

The soul is only as good as it’s aware and it’s only as aware to the degree of observation, once this observation is hindered by fixations to mortal existences, it becomes less aware and more vulnerable to other influences.

I was myself extremely vulnerable when I lost direction at certain times in my life, this was all due to me becoming more of a  participator than an observer. At any time I could have been killed which would have drastically changed my chosen path. Because of my connection, I put myself in great peril. No chosen path is set in concrete, in other words, if we allow, our path can be altered by other influences around us but only if we are unaware.

Yes, some people paths will lead them to die for their country or a path  changed by other influences in other ways, this is inevitable, but not all paths are meant to go this way. The more vulnerable we make ourselves to the soul that is fixated to mortal existences and consequence accrued conditions, the more vulnerable we are to other influences that will try to change our chosen path.

If we are in ourselves, at the human level, being an observer as well as a participator, it’s unlikely your soul isn’t doing the same, in this case it’s worth being guided by your soul. If however we are just going along with everyone and only participating, it’s likely your soul is doing the same but not necessarily. Some souls choose to be the observer while allowing the human self only be a participator, this however leaves you open to vulnerabilities which may or may not be a part of your chosen path. In this case, the human self is unlikely to listen to the soul when the human self becomes too fixated to mortal existences.

By allowing your human self to become aware of being an observer, will allow one to become more in tune with their soul. Learning to become an observer can even change a soul fixated to mortal existences to also become once again an observer. Once a soul becomes an observer again, it can then be trusted to once again be our guide on our chosen path. I do think that is why we have (automatically) created so much chaos, our souls have become fixated and tainted by accrued conditions brought about by these fixations to mortal existences. Even if our souls weren’t tainted by these conditions, we are still not listening to our souls at the human level.  

I should also point out here, it’s worth becoming aware of beyond the soul to the spirit of the soul, the spirit of the soul being only of immortal existence (consciousness itself). This is due to the  spirit being unable to become fixated to anything of what is mortal, this includes any accrued conditions created by mortal existences, in other words the spirit is more purer within it’s consciousness. Could you imagine the kind of reality this would create, it’s very much a possibility!! 

Healing Through Immortality

Written by Mathew Naismith

The healing process: Healing through immortality actually has nothing to do with a healing process, as such, it’s to do with a realization that adjusts the mortal self in accordance with what is being realised, this of course to our mortal self is healing. Once we adjust to this realisation, this in turn automatically adjusts what mortal conditioning has accrued.

This can be tricky, we have so many mortal conditions to be healed from the mind to the body and even to the soul itself, where do we start?

First of all, you must realise that you don’t actually start anywhere, this is due to there being no starting or ending point of your immortal self, remembering, your immortal self isn’t governed by time. It’s actually this time that accrues conditions that need healing, why continue to use time to rid ourselves of what has been accrued when it’s this time, this mortal state of consciousness, that has given us these conditions in the first place?

Time = mortal existence + added conditions + healing needed

Timelessness = immortal existence + no conditions + no healing needed

The realisation is all to do with realising your immortal self and that the mortal self will accrued conditions in accordance with our unawareness of our immortal self. Yes, all our conditions are due to an unawareness, it’s as simple as that, or is it?

To a consciousness that is predominantly conditioned to mortal existence, being aware isn’t going to be simple to do, how is a consciousness unconditioned to  immortal existence going to comprehend this  immortal existence?  So in turn, we continue to use mortal healing processes to heal ourselves, this kind of healing process of course isn’t sustainable, this is all due to using the same existence that is the cause of the conditions in the first place, time (mortal existence).

Many posts ago I wrote about perceiving past time into timelessness, which denotes our immortal self, if there’s no time, there is no mortality, an ending of a consciousness. This is all due to there being no starting or ending point of existence, if there I no starting or ending point, how would a condition that needs healing exist in the first place?  The thing is it wouldn’t and this is the point in the realisation of  immortal existence. Mortal existence isn’t actually normal because it’s rarely experienced by consciousness itself, in other words mortality isn’t our usual state of consciousness, it’s an anomaly from our usual state of existence, this however in my mind doesn’t make it an illusion, just an expression of consciousness itself.

We are basically deluded in thinking mortal existence is who we are and that mortal existence is our normal state of consciousness, this mentality will of course accrued insurmountable conditions that need healing. I do myself find it strange though that we use what is causing our condition in the first place in the healing process, again this of course isn’t going to be sustainable. This would be like taking rat poison to rid ourselves of toxic arsenic poisoning, this action will of course kill us in the end. I suppose once we are dead, we have healed the condition but isn’t there a better way to rid ourselves of these condition in the first place? 

Let’s look at how people like Jesus healed, all they do is touch someone or even connect themselves in someway without touching them to heal these conditions, to a mortal thinking person, this healing process would seem totally absurd and rightfully so, if we can’t comprehend something, how could it exist?  To people like Jesus, this kind of healing process indeed existed only because they comprehended (became aware of) their own immortal existence.

Yes, it can take time to condition ourselves to comprehending immortal existence, only because we are conditioned to think we are predominantly mortal. It’s wise to read up on anything that tells us about our immortality, this will start the reconditioning process of knowing we are truly immortal.

The soul: Yes, the soul can also accrue conditions that need healing, this of course seems daunting to the mortal thinking self, “we need to heal our human selves and our soul, it’s too much”, the usual question is, “where do I start?” Again, you don’t start anywhere, a soon as you have done this, you have started a healing process that accrued these conditions in the first place. Just become aware of  immortal existence, you might say this is a starting point but it’s not, it’s just an awareness nothing more. What you need to do is forget about starting and ending points to begin with, become aware of your immortal self. Again it comes down to simple awareness.

Human self = time + mortal existence

The soul = time and timelessness + mortal and immortal existence

Spirit = timelessness + immortal existence

The soul is indeed unique, it’s a balance of  time and timeliness, mortal and immortal existence until it’s predominately governed by mortal or immortal existence. When the soul is governed by mortal existence, it can accrue conditions that need healing, this isn’t the same when the soul is predominately governed by the spirit itself (consciousness itself), this is due to the spirit not accruing conditions that need to be healed.

The strange thing about the soul is it’s not governed by boundaries like mortal existence is until the soul becomes governed by time. The soul has a starting point but not in the same sense as mortal existences do, the soul has always existed as pure consciousness but it’s not until it expresses this consciousness does it have a starting point of origin. You might think that if the soul has a starting point, the soul has to have an ending point as well, this isn’t the case but can be the case, this depends on if the soul is governed by mortal or immortal existence (time or timelessness). I did say the soul was unique.

I actually came across souls that were very disruptive and destructive on a couple of occasions, their whole being was influenced by mortality, only through this mortality were they able to be so disruptive and destructive, this was all due to mortal  thinking consciousnesses existing in a reality of mortal existence. They themselves were aware of their own mortality, for once they became aware of immortal existence, their own existence would cease to exist even at the soul level. They didn’t take too kindly to me, I was too aware of immortal existence. 

Mortal existence exists only because of the existence of mortal existences, if we were to all become the spirit itself, all mortal existence would cease to exist. This is were the soul gives the spirit balance and an existence to were this spirit can express it’s own consciousness in it’s various ways.

You can at the human level wise your soul to it’s own immortality thus giving back a soul it’s balance, once you obtain a balance between mortal and immortal existences, you will find you won’t need to be healed. I’m not actually doing this myself, only because I don’t judge or mind being also expressive of an imbalance which accrues conditions that need to be healed. The funny thing is, the majority of people existing in this mortal existence are doing the same, they are just not aware of this at the human level, trust me, you wouldn’t be here otherwise.

It is however noticeable that a lot of people want to change this existence to a more constructive existence, void of these accrued conditions. To me, becoming aware of your immortal self is a good start, however, do try to stay away from healing processes that incorporate using healing processes that use mortal conditioning, this would be like a dog chasing it’s tail. 

                  

The Way We Feel

Written by Mathew Naismith

The more spiritually aware we become, the less we think and the more we feel, however, at certain times these feelings bring on a lot of thinking, it’s important not to judge this as being unworthy to express. The reason for this lies in that these feelings are generating thought, not thought generating a certain thinking process. From birth, most cultures influence the people to think from a thought process, usually from people who are older like our parents for example, this conditioning is all about thinking from an already established thought process. Developing a thought process from feelings works quite differently.

It’s no mistake we feel more while becoming spiritually aware, this is mainly due to becoming more sensitive to our surroundings, at this stage we can become overly sensitive and judge what is and isn’t worthy to express.

The Hitler mentality: Most people would say Adolf Hitler was unworthy, however, people like myself don’t, this is because there are no worthy or unworthy expressions of consciousness, yes, Adolf Hitler was obviously more destructive than people like myself but should this mean we judge such expressions as unworthy? As soon as we do, we are expressing the same mentality than what Hitler expressed, in other words what is and isn’t worthy of expressing, for example, Jews weren’t worthy of their expressions so he judged them as unworthy, this is why we need to be aware of our feelings that spiritual awareness can bring on.

Recently I came across a spiritually aware person downing people for expressing their beliefs in the bible and God, the question here is, who’s expression is more worthy,  the believers in God or the non-believers? As soon as you are drawn into this mentality of worthy and unworthy, we become the very thing we judge as unworthy. Try to firstly become aware of what I call the Hitler mentality and avoid it at all costs if you truly want to become spiritually aware.

Religious fanatics have, unbeknownst to themselves, taken on the Hitler mentality, all else other than their own ideological beliefs are unworthy, do try to stay away from this mentality at all costs for it’s obviously highly destructive. If on the other hand you want to cause destruction and disruption (chaos), by all means take on this mentality as it’s no more or less worthy or unworthy than any other expression to express, however, spiritual awareness to me is supposed to be about avoiding such mentalities, it’s supposed to be constructive not destructive.

The reason for spirituality being more constructive is simple, the more aware you become, the less motion you express unless we allow our newly found sensitive feelings to dictate what is an isn’t worthy of expressing. If at this stage you feel, for example, the Hitler mentality isn’t worthy of expressing, you have allowed your feelings to influence your judgment upon what is and isn’t worthy. Once you get past this stage though, you will see that all expressions are worthy no matter how destructive or constructive they are, this is all due to the way we are now perceiving. Once you go beyond human conditioned perceptions, all expressions become worthy of expressing no matter what, this includes Jewish and other religious people’s perceptions.

             

Becoming spiritually aware can bring on insurmountable feelings, usually strong feelings of love and/or you become more sensitive to your immediate surrounding, in other words you become directly connected to what’s going on within this reality. You basically feel what the collective is going through in this reality, this is commonly called an empath.

Being an empath makes it more difficult to not judge what is and isn’t worthy, the chaotic destructive energy one can feel is hard not to judge, especially when  they are so different to our own. It’s important here to be aware of what I call the Hitler mentality, try not to judge a worthy or unworthy, just see these energy sources as just an expression of consciousness, nothing else. As soon as we see these expressions as something unbecoming, we ourselves start to express this Hitler mentality, through this motion, we become more expressive not less expressive. Religious people, for example, have  made this mistake time and time again, try to avoid this motion, this reaction, as much as possible.

Feelings of the soul: We will of course, while becoming aware, feel more of what our souls have experienced as well, this is usually on top of being an empath, this of course can bring forth feelings from past lives lived, even from different realities/universe/ dimensions. It’s obviously quite daunting becoming spiritually aware when we are  conditioned to perceive only through human perceptions. I should point out, not all cultures teach their people in this way, some cultures teach the people to perceive beyond human perceptions, actually this kind of teachings are naturally human to them, this of course makes it easier on these people while becoming aware. Sadly enough in most cultures, this kind of teachings died out long ago.

What I have noticed is a lot of people have obviously brought forth love and light from their souls experiences, these people however should beware that not all souls have experienced the same degree of love and light. The message here is, try not to judge a souls experiences as being less worthy than your own just because such souls have not experienced, as yet, the same degree of love and light as yourselves.

Now the love and light being felt and expressed, while becoming spiritually aware, has a lot to do with past lives lived I feel, such soul changing experiences are usually brought about by existing in a reality/universe/dimension that is less of motion than this one. Our human perceptions however tell us love and light are more emotional therefore more of motion than less, this actually isn’t the case. Wasn’t Hitler also very emotional therefore of motion instead of motionless?

Love and light become a natural occurrence while becoming spiritually aware, they are also a natural occurrence in other  realities/universes/dimensions, this means this kind of expression isn’t intentional therefore needs less motion to express. This is different in realities/universes/dimensions that are based on motion like our own, how much hate and chaos do we express in this reality?  The more intentionally expressive we are, the more motion we cause, and the more motion we cause, the more chaos we create. Love and light is more about our souls experiences while in realities/universes/dimensions, realities/universes/dimensions of less motion. The reason we think love and light take more motion is because we are in a reality of motion, it takes a lot more effort to express such love and light were it doesn’t in realities/universes/dimensions of less motion, it’s a natural occurrence without effort within these realities/universes/dimensions.

We also have souls in this reality that have experienced huge degrees of darkness and chaos, they are of course quite suited to this kind reality seen as this reality is all about motion. Could you imagine realities/universes/dimensions that are far more of motion than this one,  it’s hard for the souls that can only remember realities/universes/dimensions of light and love, it’s quite understandable how these souls will judge what is and isn’t worthy. All I am saying is be careful of this as this mentality is the same mentality we are saying is unworthy.

I love this kind of reality, it’s certainly testing us all at the soul level.            

Going Beyond the Souls Perceptions

Written by Mathew Naismith

The soul first of all represents the expressions of consciousness itself, however,  each soul only expresses a certain expressive function of consciousness, this is why consciousness itself is represented by individuals parts of itself interacting with itself. Physical worlds are a good example of this individuality, no form within these worlds are exactly alike as they all only represent a portion of what consciousness is as a whole.

The spirit on the other hand is representative of the spirit of consciousness itself, this means the spirit is a connection between the soul and this consciousness. You could look at it in this way, this spirit is like the silver cord that is attached between your body and soul when astral travelling, this silver cord basically represents the spirit of your humans self which keeps you connected to your soul. This is the same with consciousness itself and our soul, our souls have basically gone on an astral trip but our spirit, like the silver cord connecting us between our body and soul while astral travelling, keeps us attached to consciousness itself. As the silver cord in astral travelling represents our human spirit, so is the spirit between consciousness itself and the soul.

This basically means any connection, either it be between your human self and the soul OR the soul and consciousness itself,  represents the spirit either it be the human spirit or the spirit of consciousness itself. This means the silver cord that attaches us to our bodies, while astral travelling, is the human spirit and the connection between consciousness itself and the soul is the spirit of consciousness itself. Religion (spirituality) has always tried to stay aware of this connection between consciousness itself and the soul and the human self, I suppose that’s what’s spirituality is about, this connection in particular.

Consciousness itself = the spirit of consciousness + soul + human spirit + humans

              Consciousness        spirit of consciousness            soul             Human spirit            Human self 

The souls awareness and perception is governed by actual experiences of the said soul, in other words the more ways  a soul has been  expressive of consciousness itself, the more aware the soul will be of this consciousness. In turn, this awareness allows the soul to become more perceptive of consciousness as a whole as opposed to being only partially aware of this consciousness.     

The question is now, can we perceive beyond the soul? Would we really want (desire) to do this, why would we want to do this in the first place, really? Why not just allow the soul to go with the flow and express this consciousness as it’s obviously supposed too. 

Then why astral travel, it’s the same thing, which leads to the human self becoming more aware? The soul allows consciousness itself to become more aware of itself through it’s individual expressions of itself. This is because consciousness itself is unable to express itself without individualising itself, it’s aware of itself but it can’t express this awareness when whole. This is like the more humanly aware we become, the less expressive we are , this is mainly due to being aware of how the ego influences us to be as expressive as it is. We express anger and hurt less, however, you could say we express more love and understanding but love and understanding isn’t an actual expression if expressed without being influenced by the ego in anyway.

Only through the ego can we be so expressive of consciousness itself, anything else  not of the ego is a natural occurrence as there are no intentions, this means only through the ego can we express intentions. True love and understanding takes no intentions as this comes naturally through becoming aware, however, to become aware in the first place, you need to be expressive of consciousness in various ways at the soul and human level. The ego, and even egotism, is worthy because they are a part of the process to becoming aware and naturally loving and understanding. This also means intentions are also a part of the process of becoming aware especially at the soul level.

The soul obviously has an important part to play here, it allows consciousness itself to express itself in various ways, the point is, why are we now becoming more aware of perceiving beyond the souls perceptions if the soul is so important to consciousness itself?

I feel there are two reasons for this awareness, one, we are at a very destructive time in man’s history, we need, as opposed to desire,  to become more aware of who and what we are to save ourselves from ourselves. The second reason has to do with the natural process of things, we are at the stage of naturally becoming  aware of beyond  our human and souls perceptions. You could say this would mean we are no longer going to be able to be as expressive of consciousness itself but that’s not entirely true. Becoming more aware and perceiving beyond the souls perception is also a part of this consciousness’s expressions, it’s all a part of the process. Yes, once this process has run it’s course, we will no longer be a part of expressing this consciousness, we will no longer need a soul in other words, however!!

You actually at the soul level have a choice here to either go on being expressive of conscious or not, many people today who are aware of perceiving beyond the soul now have this choice.

How could such an aware soul go on expressing consciousness in various ways when the soul is already perceiving beyond the souls perceptions? At this point in the souls awareness, it’s also aware in how to become unaware through physical means again so it can go on being expressive of consciousness itself. It’s like continuing to serve consciousness (God) if you like, by sacrificing your oneness with consciousness, you are still serving consciousness through expressing consciousness itself in various ways.

Why continue to be so expressive of this consciousness, isn’t this consciousness already aware of it’s own consciousness as a whole without  this consciousness being continually being expressive of itself?

Buddha to me is a good example of consciousness itself (God). This consciousness is always being tempted, like Buddha was, until Buddha become enlightened to itself, this means all of what consciousness is, needs to be enlightened to itself through awareness and it’s expressions of this awareness. Everything being expressed is of this one consciousness, there are no other consciousness’s being expressed here. If this one consciousness is still expressing itself through egotism, this consciousness isn’t truly enlightened to itself through it’s expressions of itself.

This consciousness is aware and enlightened until it expresses itself through individual forms, it’s seemingly obviously unable to be expressive of it’s enlightened state through it’s individual expressions.

There however is something else to consider here, isn’t consciousness itself, by being so expressive of itself in various ways, becoming more aware of it’s own expressions through expressing itself in various ways?  Consciousness is basically expressing everything it’s aware it is, in other words every individual expression is an expression of consciousness’s awareness of itself.  If you are able to express your whole self, you are one with yourself. Basically, consciousness itself is showing how of oneness it truly is, it’s totally accepting all of what it is by the way it expresses itself, there is no judgment of what expressions are worthy or unworthy here.  As soon as you judge a worthy or an unworthy, are you one with yourself? 

People like Buddha, for example, realise what they are being tempted by is within them, it’s a part of them, however, the reason one is not tempted to express such temptations is due to being aware of all of what they are, not just what the controlling ego tells them what they are.

The soul is also not all of who we are, it’s but one of numerous expressions of consciousness itself, but collectively, all the souls make up a collective singular consciousness. 

We have always known it’s worth being aware beyond the human and souls perceptions because that is who we are as a whole.