Friday, 5 July 2013
Written by Mathew Naismith
Below is an interesting exchange between myself & another person on the discussion of atheism & spiritualism on Linkedin, I find it really funny how when one person is fixated on one belief or concept that is the truth over anything else, this of course relates a lot to what I have just been writing about on my blog in relation to fixated attachments & how they can hinder our conscious growth personally & collectively.
I don’t won’t to crush anyone’s beliefs here but going into deep meditation & feeling oneness & unconditional love of everything is of our human emotions, science has proven that we are still thinking while meditating however we are using different parts of our brain, so if we are still thinking we still have emotions & emotions of any kind can be quite delusional at times. Psychologically the reason we feel unconditional love is it’s in reaction to our physical world, any feeling of any opposites can be quite extreme thus emotional to the extreme.
Once we go past this extreme emotional conscious state we see it for what it is, you still feel unconditional love however it’s not as emotionally extreme. Feeling harmonious & at pure peace can to a human feel like unconditional love which makes perfect sense because our world, especially at times, can be quite harrowing, it’s just a counter reaction to this. Once you get past this point of counter reaction one becomes a lot more accepting & clear as you see everything for what it truly is. Psychology should play a huge part in spirituality I believe; it would make us see spirituality in quite a different more accepting light which would make us less conflictive.
Mathew: "" Psychologically the reason we feel unconditional love is it’s in reaction to our physical world, any feeling of any opposites can be quite extreme thus emotional to the extreme"".
I would say that any who experience the UNconditional Love that I did, and they don't equate it to GOD (not God nor gods), then they never felt it.
IMnsHO and E.
Are you saying I never felt it, are you sure of that? Your own attachments are telling you that I have never experienced such occurrences. Our own modes of thought tell us what we want to hear especially in regards to our own ideological concepts & especially when questioned, in this case your mode of thought is telling you that I have never experienced such occurrences if I don’t equate it to some God or deity. Do you know how many modes of thought there are out there? If you count how many different personas there is you would be close so who’s mode of thought is right over another?
I got caught up in a conscious state of unconditional love & harmony but I went past that & at that time I didn’t equate it to psychology but from the act of actually going past this point of consciousness. I feel unconditionally loving all the time however I don’t allow it to rule my entire life as I realised one can only know of one’s true self through diversity not just being fixated to one mode of thought or concept.
Have you heard of the double slot physics experiment where once observed one can change the outcome of the experiment to what one expects to find? Everything is consciousness so when one is expecting a certain outcome that is exactly what they will get & of course anyone being spiritually minded will expect to experience unconditional love & harmony in certain states of consciousness, we are taught & conditioned to expect this through various spiritual writings so that is exactly what you will experience in these states of consciousness. It all comes down to one vibration reacting to another!!
If you are saying God is just consciousness as we all are I agree.
This all comes down to if we equate unconditional love to just a God or deity, everyone’s experience would be exactly the same in these conscious states but they are not for the main reason we perceive something different to someone else so the outcome or experience is going to be of that difference to others. Yes we all feel unconditional love & harmony however these feelings are slightly different plus our visualisation is somewhat different but it shouldn’t be if it was equated to God or deity. As for what I felt, it was far more than just feeling unconditional love & harmony so even the feelings we get from such conscious states can be quite different, it’s obvious the feeling of unconditional love isn’t just equated to a God or deity but of course that depends on one’s own fixated mode of thoughts at the time!!
No one with a fixated attachment is going to be able to see pass their belief system however just having attachments without being fixated is quite different as one is then able to see outside the square & not be blinded by living within the square of any such fixated mode of thoughts.