Written by Mathew Naismith
I’m having a discussing at the moment with two obvious hard
line atheists mainly about consciousness, their reactions are typical of any extremist,
this is scary because atheism is becoming more and more popular. I should point out that not all atheists are
this extreme within their actions and views as not all Muslims are extremists.
The following is my response to these atheists, I didn’t
insert the responses from these atheists because I found them rather highly irrational
and it would have made this post a little too long for me. You also might find some
of the information I’ve supplied here interesting, Christianised countries certainly
have their merits that the whole free world should be thankful for.
"Various
agnostics and theists have criticised atheism for being an unscientific, or
overly dogmatic and definitive position to hold, some with the argument that
'absence of evidence cannot be equated with evidence for absence'. The
philosopher Alvin Plantinga argues that a failure of theistic arguments might
conceivably be good grounds for agnosticism, but not for atheism, and points to
the observation of an apparently "fine-tuned Universe" as more likely
to be explained by theism than atheism.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_atheism
The following is an interesting read about the typical bad arguments of
atheism.
Richard Dawkins has lost it: ignorant sexism gives atheists a bad name
says atheists.
The main point is
atheism wouldn't exist unless it wasn't for people having a belief in deities
therefore atheism couldn't exist if deities were proven to exist. Can we say
the same about religion? Think on this if I was you before answering yes.
The point is atheism
is very shallow and narrow minded within it's concepts especially when compared
to religion.
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The following was my
reply to humanism being more about atheism than theism/spirituality; this point
was made from a person who is supposed to be into straight science not
philosophy.
“Humanism is a
philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human
beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking
and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over established doctrine or faith
(fideism).” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism
Philosophy isn’t a
science and it’s certainly not psychology even though psychology evolved from
philosophy, we must remember here that modern day science evolved from
philosophy, mysticism and alchemy.
Is the study of
humanism predominantly scientific if it’s mainly based on philosophy and
ethics? I don’t think so!!!
One of the biggest
in-humanitarian countries in the world is atheistic (China) and the most
humanitarian countries in the world are predominately Christian by far, doesn’t
this alone say something? I don’t think it would to in-humanitarians somehow.
This is an interesting
survey I must say; the top ten are all Christian orientated countries, atheistic
counties didn’t even come close.
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Go back a thousand
years or so, what would the world be like now without Christian countries
coming together in a common cause? Think on this, would there be any atheists
around today?
Let’s now look at
recent times; there was again a major threat to the free world in the mid to
late 1900’s, what counties helped keep our freedom that atheists and alike
enjoy today?
Now let’s look at the
present times, what counties are again assisting atheists and like keep their
freedom and their life style, remembering an atheistic minority country is
actually assisting this peril?
How ignorant can hard
line atheists get, they owe their freedom and their living conditions to
Christian orientated countries, it’s a blessing not all atheists are this
ignorant and thankless. No I’m not a Christian as such, I don’t praise a God or
idolise Jesus but I am giving and caring and I do appreciate my life I have
today.
Christianity has hard
line extremist atheist on one side and religious extremists on the other side,
these hard line atheists better hope these Christian countries hold out, if
they don’t their atheism won’t be around much longer.
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One of the traits of
extremists is deception; these two atheists continually express this trait and
other traits of extremism, this is a clear observation not judgement.
This kind of deception
obviously comes too freely for you Dusty, a typical extremist trait, another
trait of an extremist is irrationality, how often do you display this trait
remembering abusive behaviour, deceit and deliberate intimidation are defined as
irrational behaviour?
Let's look at the
behaviour of Islamic extremists, they are abusive, intimating, deceitful and
highly irrational, most extremists display these traits as you obviously do
yourself. Thanks again for proving my point Dusty; it's good to see you are
still participating.
I just can't believe
how thankless these extremist atheist are in regards to soldiers who are and
were Christians dying for their freedom and way of life, if it wasn't for
people having beliefs Dusty you most probably wouldn't be here, try not to be
so unethical and thankless but this after all is another sign of extremism, you
surly couldn't deny that? Yes of course you could like any good extremist can.
I thank my lucky stars
I had and have soldiers who are Christian dying for my freedom and way of life
right throughout history; you can be as thankless all you like Dusty but not
me. You can have your extremism my friend all to yourself.
Do we just be a let be, let everything run it’s own course? This
would be nice, but like in WWII if they did this, I know I wouldn’t’ be around
today and the world wouldn’t be as expressive of freedom as it is today, we
certainly wouldn’t be talking about spirituality as we do today.
We have all got our part to play; all we can do is go with
the flow of the moment, if you feel like taking action, you take action but at
the same time remembering each action attracts a reaction.
Life would indeed be passive without extremism of any kind,
this is active intentions, passive intentions are people like you and I discussing
passive ways to exist and just be.
Extremist Traits:
I think it’s important to recognise the
traits of extremism, not just in others but in ourselves as well; the following should
assist in this.
I was raised In an Assembly of God Church. If your not familiar with it, it is Christian but has some interesting practices. Shouting speaking in tongues.I once almost got hit by a flying shoe when the preacher started shouting took hos shoe off threw it and started talking about walking on holy ground.Somewhere around 12 I started to question traditional religion as an institution. I have no doubt my parents thought they were doing the right thing dragging us to church several times a week. And I do admit I learned some valuable things From going to church. I went through several phases over the years. Being what I thought was an agnostic and atheist at some point. I researched many religions and finally disassociated myself with traditional religion.The bible says the kingdom of God is within you. I believe that is the God source within us all. We all have to find our own way, I no longer discuss religion with people, I acknowledge the God source in others and sort of see the Earth as our church. I can get more peace sitting in the woods for 10 minutes that I ever got going to church. Its a matter of tapping into that flow of the God source. For some it may be easier in a church. For other in the woods or by the sea may be easier. When I considered my self an atheist and agnostic I was questioning myself searching for what was right for me. Again I am rambling. Namaste,
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