Written by Mathew Naismith
I had an interesting discussion with a bloke in relation to
my last post titled, Subjective and Objective Analysis, it seems I didn’t explain
myself too well. The post wasn’t about being anti-subjective thinking, which is
analysing through feelings, but balancing out our subjective analysis when we
have distaste for something we are analysing.
To me the world at present is a good example of how subjective analysis of
each other is distorting our reality making it more volatile, all I am saying
is in this situation, we need to use more objective analysis to balance out our
over emotional reactions. Hopefully the
following will elaborate on this a little further starting off with this blokes
queries of my last post in question.
I do not believe we
disagree on the general thrust of your claims.
I take issue solely with one claim:
the imaginary possibility of objectivity as a perspective from which we
may safely acquire knowledge. There is
no other perspective than the one into which we are thrown. Mood or emotion is part of our experience, as
it is with our memory. It may no more be
extracted and preserve the original experience than we may detach ourselves
from our bodies and imagine that experience is possible without them (dreams,
perhpas, although they will still reference the body and the physical
sphere). That emotions can cloud our
judgment or distort what we are seeing is not being denied. What is denied is that we can (or should) be
without emotion in the appropriation of experience that becomes knowledge. We achieve critical distance from our
emotions and biases by re-examination of our experiences and by making
conscious that lens by which we came to understand this or that experience.
My Reply
It sounds like a claim
doesn't it, it's just a generalization brought about by my own observation.
I don't think we are disagreeing
as a whole, we just don’t see each other’s perspectives on this matter that is
all.
Emotions are a part of
how we learn, there is no doubt to that however, what the post is about is
analysing something we are anti to, if we are analysing anything we have distaste
for, what I’m am stating is subjective analysis will distort our feeling even
more where’s objective analysis will
balance out such feelings. We don’t need
to add more fire to the fire for the fire to burn, it’s burning quite well on
it’s own, the world at present, with it’s subjective analysing, is to me quite
clearly showing how subjective thought is emotionally distorting reality.
Subjective analysis is
about analysing a wrong or right, black and white, if we are too emotional when
we analyse in this way, we will over exemplify what actually is. Yes, in a
situation where we are not showing distaste, subjective analysis works fine but
what I am saying, if we are showing distaste to something we are analysing we
will distort reality, the truth. As soon
as we show distaste, we quite automatically use subjective analysis instead of
objective analysis, in my mind we need to be more aware of this.
I’m not anti-subjective
thinking but the post is about subjective and objective analysis when in distaste
of anything we analyse.
The funny thing is, spirituality takes away the black and
white judgment of subjective analysing when using subjective analysis, this in
turn gives us more of balance between subjective and objective thought however,
I might not be totally correct in this analysis but I think I’m close to
it. Being spiritually aware, feelings become
a major part of our lives and that is what we analyse through however in this
case because we are spiritually aware and non-judgemental, the black and white
are not judged as being opposite to each other or opposing each other. Because we are not judging, we are less likely
to be influenced by our over exemplified emotions allowing us to be as objective
as we are subjective within our analysis giving us balance.
There is also big difference between emotions and feelings when
spiritually aware; we actually become less emotional even though at times it
seems to be the other way around. What
we feel makes us emotional but the feelings themselves aren’t emotional, they
create emotions within us through us opening to such inner feelings but these
feelings aren’t themselves emotional. How
do we become less emotional? We end up taking these feelings within our stride,
in other words we become less emotional about these feelings the more they
become the norm. Don’t get me wrong,
this doesn’t take away the feelings we get and in actual fact the more the normal
these feelings are to us the more we will feel.
It is quite interesting observing how spiritualty quite automatically
balances out the way we subjectively and objectively analyse, this kind of mentality
dispels fanatical thinking, a thought process that over exemplifies it’s opposites
causing further chaos. We no longer see extremes
but a reality of similarities brought about by our inner feelings that are no
longer emotionally controlled or choke by such emotions, we become balanced with
our truer selves. There is no longer a
struggle between the push and pull effect, subjective objective analysis.
Yes I could be incorrect
with this analysis however I could also be correct, each to their own
perspective.
Supplement: My Reply
This is why I concurred
with what was written in the link supplied that referred to the psychological
aspects of this, instead of just analysing through objective analysis, they
need to also analyse through subjective analysis. This is turn balances out the analysis between
objective and subjective thought giving us a better evaluation.
What you seem to be
saying is you deny such equivocation exist, there is no separation between subjective
and objective thought, this is true to an extent. To us this separation exists, that is true, however
in true reality this separation doesn’t exist, but we don’t exist in a true
reality as per se.
To un-separate such mentalities,
we need to give balance back into our thinking by using both subjective and
objective analysis at the same time as stipulated in the article on psychologists
abandoning the subjective—objective divide.
The reason I stated
that subjective analysis is about a wrong and right, black and white is it’s
about judgment and separation of supposed opposites giving us a more emotional
response. What I am saying is we don’t need to be any more emotional when we
are analysing anything we have a disdain for and gives us more separation. What
I am also saying is objective analysis gives us the balance we need in this
case.
I agree with you, there
is no true separation between objective and subjective analysis however at
present, we are living as if there is, that is what I’m working with at present.
It is easy for people like you and I to
see this but is it that simple for others to see this without bringing in
balance between subjective and objective analysis? The answer is no, we could tell them there is no
separation but is this alone going to change their mentality? They need to
become aware of living in balance between objective and subjective analysis
before they will realise there is no separation between these two modes of thought.
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