The following comes from an interesting discussion I put up
on the TED site asking do we think while meditating? The following is an
interesting exchange between myself & an internet friend of mine.
Discussion:
What if I told you that we actually have a higher mental
activity while in deep meditation not less!! I’ve actually been saying this for
some time now & of course been laughed at by most other spiritually aware
people in saying so but this is the second scientific study I have come across
saying the something. It’s important we are fully aware of ourselves & stop
burying our heads in the sand just because it goes against our old conscious
beliefs.
As quoted from the
link below: Gamma brain waves (39-100 hz) are involved in higher mental
activity and consolidation of information. An interesting study has shown that
advanced Tibetan meditators produce higher levels of gamma than non-meditators
both before and during meditation.
The below link is an
interesting read:
Response:
Not sure our brains are
the focal point Mathew? I tend to say heart/mind and that would explain the
automatic singing even if that function of her brain was shut down.
As there are two major types of meditation -
analytical and calming - then I would expect a monks brain to be clearly
focused on the subject he is analyzing during that session. But if he was
accomplished in calm-abiding then the thoughts would be stilled, they can
maintain this shut down for hours on end and are quite oblivious to the passing
of time.
Both quite different skills and the later
takes many years and the right circumstances to achieve. Maybe your study was
testing the former?
G’day Kate
The brain is different
to the mind, when we pass on our brain stays behind however our mind is always
a part of consciousness. In this mind
thought prevails however the reason we think we are no longer thinking is because
of our way of thinking has changed nothing more nor less, the mind never stops
thinking unlike the brain. How do ghosts, spirits & other non-physical entities
interact especially in the physical realm if it wasn’t for thought?
You must understand
Kate this study endorses what meditators go through as no other range of thought
that I know of to date reaches such levels except through meditation which means
there is more activity going on within the mind therefore the brain than any
other mode of thought or system of thought.
Let’s ask the question
why? I said previous that the mind is different to the brain, the brain is only
as good as the input of information however when we tap into the universal mind
through meditation, which is consciousness itself, certain parts of the brain
come to life & other parts shut off. Like I said in my previous reply during one
study on a person singing hymns, the part of the brain controlling speech shut
down but they were still singing, we no longer needed the physical part of the
brain for speech just like a ghost or spirit but became connected with the mind
(consciousness) itself. So why does this
universal mind/consciousness make us feel like we are not thinking? It’s a much
calmer way of thinking for the main reason we no longer have fixated
attachments & worries to contend with, it’s as if a veil has been lifted
off so of course we are going to think we are not thinking.
So the answer to the
question; why is the frequency range higher when meditating than in any other
thought mode is we are tapping into the universal mind (consciousness) which is
vast so it’s obviously going to be more active which in turn makes the physical
brain more active in certain parts of the brain.
Love
Mathew
The following link will take you to this discussion on TED:
http://www.ted.com/conversations/19379/do_we_think_while_meditating.html?c=708364
There is also another interesting conversation on this topic on the following site as well:
http://indigosociety.com/showthread.php?71506-The-Mind-Universal-Consciousness-Itself
There is also another interesting conversation on this topic on the following site as well:
http://indigosociety.com/showthread.php?71506-The-Mind-Universal-Consciousness-Itself
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