Written by Mathew Naismith
The following is a very interesting exchange between a good
internet friend of mine & myself on the various topics, we are indeed all
on different wave lengths but of course we learn from diversity & the
following is no different.
Related link: http://www.spiritboard.net/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=meditation&Number=106370&part=3#Post118846
Hi Mathew,
Again Who is it that is reincarnating?
Is it love or is it a self?
There is no I in love.
Unconditional love does not need karma or self'it just is'
take care
Tawmeeleus
G'day Tawmeeleus
You have a problem with the I & self, I don't.
It is the smaller me who is reincarnating or self as you
like to put it for the main reason to give my soul experience to learn by
through diversity, you can't learn through diversity in being we or I
collectively it has to be self & just I which is what gives us diversity to
learn by.
I'm sorry but this I stuff that's so popular at the moment is rubbish to me because it
represents segregation for starters of one consciousness to another which
represents opposing polarities & conflict not oneness. To believe in this
segregation you would have to believe everything of time & space to be an
illusion when it can’t be because it vibrates so it exists just in a different
consciousness not in an opposing consciousness because to have one
consciousness the illusion & the other real you have opposing polarities
but if there just different consciousness’s there is no opposition or conflict
just a difference.
This is exactly what man has done right throughout the old
consciousness just past, we need to think differently now for the new
consciousness to take effect I believe & stop finding opposing polarities
to everything.
Love
Mathew
Hello Mathew
No. I do not have a problem with any of it,not the way you
imply, asking questions and putting another scenario out there is not having a
problem.
A problem is the relation between human will and reality.
When will and reality do not coincide, the resolution of this gap between
reality and will is the solution of the problem. A problem implies a desired
outcome coupled with an apparent deficiency, doubt or inconsistency that
prevents the outcome from taking place.
I think if someone has a point of view and you do not agree
is creating opposing polarities, that were not there in the first place. This
is usually a result of one person thinking they are right and that the other is
wrong.
Whereas I personally do not believe anyone is right or wrong
because everyone only ever has the knowledge that they have! They cannot know
what they do not know.
I guess it depends on your intrepretation of what illusion
is.
An illusion is a distortion of the senses, revealing how the
brain normally organizes and interprets sensory stimulation.
When I talk about illusion I mean that what we see as real
in the physical is a perception of a physical reality.
Perception like all energy is not real or solid but we have
a physical perception, an illusion of real and solid.
have a nice day Mathew
G’day Tawmeeleus
Are you implying I’m implying what you perceive I’m
implying, I’m just implying what I perceive not what you perceive
obviously.......Don’t take things to heart Tawmeeleus!!!
Forget the human vessel, we put too much emphasis on it
because it’s not who we are so what do we have left? The soul & consciousness
which of course we are all a part of. Now the soul can be caught up in human attachments
to the extent it thinks it’s just a physical entity however you also have souls
that are aware as well. The unaware soul seem separated, the only separation
there is is the illusion of separation that’s all which comes down to awareness
& this usually comes about by having a soul that has an expanded consciousness
through diversity which you call separation or the illusion. What
you call separation I call diversity which we expand our consciousness by at
the soul & yes human level as well so this naughty separation isn’t that
naughty plus it’s the illusion of separation. When we look from outside the human emotional
square there is no separation, if there was, oneness would be totally
unattainable because you perceive separation as I don’t see separation but
totality. This is like this that & the other is spiritual but everything
else isn’t especially all the naughty stuff but I on the other hand see it as
all spiritual.
Think totally non-humanly, in this lies the truth however most
people can’t do this because of previous programming from various human sources
from the start. Your only looking at
this through human eyes obviously, try looking from outside the square inwards,
you would be amazed how unseparated we are!!!
Do you know I get into certain conscious states that I can’t
decipher half of what is human, even words have no meaning because to me in
this state it’s antiquated & out dated, it’s a real strange feeling loosing
most of what is supposed to be recognisable humanly to me. You seem to be just
talking about human conscious concepts I’m not!!
We are on quite different wave lengths Tawmeeleus to
obviously learn what we must!!!
Love
Mathew
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