The Intrepid Ego-Reply

The following was a reply I got from my last post on this blog titled The Intrepid Ego which I also posted on a spiritual site titled Spiritual Board; I have also inserted my reply back to her.

Related link below:

http://www.spiritboard.net/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=ascension&Number=118143&part=1#Post118143

Hello Mathew,

I feel differently when it comes to ego, as you know!!!

I still think ego is only for the physical reality, I do not know what use an ego would be to 'love energy'.

Energy has no needs it 'just is'

We have ego for the very reasons you state, to give us individual selves and to have the instinct to survive in that state.

I think to be humble and stagnate is a waste of ego as it is not serving any purpose other than to make other ego feel inferior.

How is that helping mankind? It is in itself ego driven.

As I have said often of this forum, there is no absolute truth, there is different opinions and that can only be healthy for everyone and their ego.

take care

Tawmeeleus

G'day Tawmeeleus

Yes we do think differently on this which is great, if we all thought the same we wouldn't evolve I feel.

To me the creative core (God) created souls to experience it's own knowing but for the souls to experience such knowing they needed realities to do just that which turned out to be realities of time & space which gave us definition. The souls desirably created these realities of time & space & desire is of the ego. Why would a soul want to experience physical existence unless it was desired?

It would seem the biggest difference between you & I is you look at the ego of being something negative I don't as only seeing negatives in things is conflictive.

Everything to me is of the spiritual which includes the ego, we can't say this that & the other is spiritual & everything else isn't, that just seems so unnecessarily conflictive which is so human & of the ego. I see the ego as a creative source of energy that will give us what we need to experience the creative core knowing either that be negative or positive. Nothing that exists isn't from the creative core itself otherwise it wouldn't exist it couldn't so everything is of the spiritual & acceptable which is far less conflictive.

We humans pull everything a part & put it into it's own little slot of existence, negative goes over there positive goes over there but it's not like that as they are really one of the same which depends on how you look at them. For an example going through excessive pain to some is extremely negative but to me it gave me more than they will ever know, the ego is of the same. 

Everything in realities of time & space is ego driven however when you see the positive attributes of the ego one's perspective totally changes as it no longer has a negative attribute thus we have become less conflictive with our spiritual environment, how more spiritual can you get, acceptance is the key not conflict.

Keep well dear Tawmeeleus

Love

Mathew

I would like to state her that no energy is of thoughtless intent, if it’s of the consciousness it has intent because consciousness is of intent itself otherwise the creative core wouldn’t have intended for souls to exist so the creative core (God) could experience its own knowing which is of the ego. 

Soul of Time

Written by Mathew Naismith

This is funny because it’s been said to me, at times, that I’ve conducted a lot of research at times when I haven’t, as I have explained in past posts I wasn’t allowed or I was warned off to reading or even meditating to any great extent on any kind of spiritual matter, it all just comes to me which is left over residue to when I was quite connected in my mid-teens. Like I have said, “Once connected always connected in some way”!!

Becoming Soul Aware: As I have explained in my recent post the soul is of time where’s the creator or creative conscious core is of no time & space, if one ever decided to rid themselves of the soul one would then be automatically of the creative core again which is of no time & space again & that is where I think everything has evolved or was created from. To my knowing no one entity (soul) has ever done this as it’s utterly pointless to do so as once within the core again you play no further role in the creation itself of time & space.  If one wishes one can be one with God, the creative core, without ridding ourselves of our individual soul by just becoming aware of our souls core from when it was first created, at this exact point there is little difference between the creative core & the soul as the only difference is one of time & space & the other one isn’t.

Everything outside the core is of time & space, you then could say everything of time & space could have a soul attachment & I think you would be right because I feel it’s the soul that has created everything of time & space therefore everything is of us, it’s our desire & of course with desire we eventually get chaos & conflicts. Desire & anything else of the ego doesn’t mean it’s negative especially when we are aware but as we go on living out various lives we accumulate attachments. Being aware of this is important if one wants to become connected & aware of one’s soul heart (core) again as explained in my last post, this is why so many other teachings tell us to become aware & deal with these attachments however as I have said in previous posts I don’t agree in ridding ourselves of these attachments all together because then you would have to rid yourself of the soul & become one with the creative core again but of course as I have said this is pointless.  The soul is of attachments so if you rid yourself of attachments altogether you rid yourself of the soul which isn’t very well known obviously.

 Note: Man has never witnessed such a conscious change as this & with all conscious changes our modes of thought change, what I & many others wright about at this point in time relate to the conscious change in thinking differently & furthering our awareness & knowing beyond what has been taught since the dawn of man, we are in fact changing the way we think & feel & our knowing, in other words rewriting the books to further our consciousness & awareness.

In any conscious change as this one, one, if willing, will become aware of their initial soul from when it was first created which is the core of the soul, believe it or not everyone knows of the souls core & a lot of these people become spiritually aware however we don’t realise this because of the distractions or our attachments, once we start ridding ourselves of the most distractive attachments we are actually becoming aware & connected to our souls core again but even when we do this we still don’t know what we are exactly connecting ourselves too, what I am saying is it’s our souls core we are connecting ourselves too here.   

I thought I would insert a conversation between myself & another person which I feel has relevance to what I have written about.

Quote Originally Posted by Goofy2

G'day Three14.......I don't think we can know it all in our present consciousness at the soul & especially the human level of conscious understanding however at the creative core level most defiantly for the main reason the creative core isn't of time & space as it's only of the now with no past or present. As for the soul it resides in realities of time & space & everything within these realities change so it is impossible while in these realities of time & space to know all however if one is consciously connected to the creative core itself a fair amount of knowing will come forth depending on the connectedness & the more connected or closer to God we are the more aware & knowing we will become. Love Mathew

Couldn't have said it better myself, except I would change the word "know" with "realize" as you are correct - everything is evolving.

My Reply:

I was just going along with you Three14. It is funny how many people think there couldn't be a reality of no time & space, the world was known to be flat or the sun a God & if you said otherwise you would have been laughed at at best. While living in a reality of time & space I don't think we are supposed to have the same knowing of a reality of no time & space otherwise this would change the outcome which would make realities of time & space void. I've read very little of what I wright about as it just comes to me, actually I only read up on these things afterwards for confirmation.

Relevant link: http://indigosociety.com/showthread.php?70494-The-One-(God-Consciousness- 

The World of True Spiritual Acceptance pt.9

Written by Mathew Naismith

EVOLVING THROUGH MODES OF THOUGHT

This part of true spiritual acceptance is going to look at desires again but in a more positive sense & I will theorise upon this in regards to our needs by collating the importance of  the need for both desires & needs to influence us at the right time in human history so we may evolve.

Before I go on I better explain the difference & the cohabitations between needs & desires. Generally needs are of acceptance & non-conflictive & desires are of non-acceptance & conflictive however there are times they work as one.
Needs & desires are at times in opposite reaction to each other but at other times they are in unison & while this action & reaction is going on we are evolving as I will explain further under the appropriate headings.


Evolving Through Different Thought Modes: Ask yourself would have we evolved if we just catered for our needs & the answer would have to be a flat no because to evolve one has desires to be better in some way, to just cater for one’s needs all we would be doing is living off the land as hunter & gatherers but were we supposed to evolve in this way?  The only way for a human to evolve is through desire to be more aware & knowing of one’s environment & self which of course makes us more conflictive & the more desiring we became the more conflictive we are, this doesn’t sound to positive but it is as I will explain further.

As I said if we just catered for our needs we could have just stayed as hunter & gatherers in a semi pristine environment but man’s makeup isn’t built that way, it would have been nice in one way to keep our world free of man’s toxic destructive way but that wasn’t going to be the case as I believe we have come here to evolve & evolve we did through the only means we had, desire & the associated conflicts to such desires.  It’s funny to think we have used conflicts to evolve but if you looked at it most of man’s advancements have come from conflicts like penicillin but in saying this things like penicillin was also a need so our needs & desires obviously coexist for us to evolve, what this is saying is to evolve our desires have also become our needs.

Our desires & related conflicts have allowed us to evolve through history to build base system of knowledge for us to evolve to the extent we are today, it’s funny to think the only way we could have evolved is through conflicts. I know a lot of spiritually aware people are going to say that we could have just chosen to evolve through spiritual knowing which would have diverted us around having such conflicts to evolve from but we would have evolved quite differently because it’s the mode of thought that makes us what we are & spirituality is but anther mode of thought. We have chosen to evolve this way for whatever reason maybe to experience physical existence in its rawest form who really knows but the thing is we obviously chose to evolve for whatever reason in this way, it was the way it was meant to be obviously.

Wiktionary
Noun
mode of thought (plural modes of thought) The way in which a person tends to think based on experience, beliefs, learning and reason.


The Right Timing: I’m going to theorise here & say that the mode of thought of desiring was a process that was needed for us to advance enough to the stage we are at now; it was all a part of the process as I will try to explain.

The thought mode of desiring, (consumerist materialism), has grown to a point that most of everybody on this planet accept for true spiritualists & the odd tribes people desire more or a better existence through consumerist materialism, this mode of thought has become epidemic for a very good reason & that reason is not just for our own pleasure but to advance enough technologically so we can now stop desiring & just tend to our needs as we once did as hunter & gatherers.  I’m going to theorise & say to evolve any further we must learn from our past because for us to go on any further in our desiring destructive ways is only going to end up disastrous for us.

To evolve takes more than one principle of mode of thought but many & many we did have throughout human history, the right timing is when to know when to change modes of thought to evolve even further.  Why has spirituality taken off with so many especially in the west at this precise time, has it got something to do with timing or is it just a coincident? Nothing in human history is just coincidence as it’s all in the timing of such changes in modes of thought which is influenced by conscious changes throughout human history.

The Natural Process: In all as a human species we chose to evolve through modes of thought that were going to make us more conflictive & the more we desired the more conflictive we became, I’m theorising that it was a natural process we had to go through to build up a technological know how enough so we can cater for all our needs, yes it has been detrimental & conflictive towards ourselves & our environment but that is just the part of the process in evolving in such away. We chose to be human & to evolve as a physical species hopefully not destroying ourselves in the process.  It is probably a good time to enumerate here that everything is of the spiritual world including physical existence so it makes sense that nothing we do is not spiritual as everything that exists is of the spiritual therefore everything we do is of the natural process of evolving. I know a lot of spiritually aware people are going to disagree with this saying our spirit true selves are all loving so how can something awful be a part of our spirit?  But love is a human emotion not a spirit emotion, our true spirit selves doesn’t have or choose to have so called good or bad emotion as this would define conflict & our true spirit selves isn’t conflictive however having modes of  thought gives us humanism therefore humanistic emotions.  We have a huge array of modes of thought & there related emotions to live by that make life what it is, we have the ability to choose what mode of thought to live by but as I said before conscious changes can & do influence us in one direction or another which also is a part of the natural process.  To have chosen let’s say a spiritual mode of thought in the first place we wouldn’t have evolved as species & experience the good & bad of physical being as we would have just tended to our needs not our desires which of course isn’t a bad way to live either.

Our desires as well as our needs have been fundamentally vital for the development of a species & our conflictive modes of thought have given us human advancements to the stage now that we have become quite intellectually knowledgeable & I will theorise again to the extent that we can now live for our needs instead of living for our desires which is far less conflictive if we desire it to be or has it become a need so we don’t wipe ourselves of the face of the Earth?


The link below takes a look at modes of thought in a more detailed philosophical way than I have presented here in this post, it’s certainly worth a read in my philosophical view.

http://www.brocku.ca/MeadProject/Whitehead/Whitehead_1938/1938_toc.html